Comments on: My Cloud Computing Concerns http://www.churchtechy.com/2009/04/my-cloud-computing-concerns/ Where Tech meets Church Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:26:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Stuart http://www.churchtechy.com/2009/04/my-cloud-computing-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-145 Stuart Wed, 20 May 2009 14:05:07 +0000 http://www.churchtechy.com/?p=333#comment-145 Simon - are you UK based? If so can you drop me a note with your eMail address. My contact form should get you through to me :) Simon – are you UK based? If so can you drop me a note with your eMail address. My contact form should get you through to me :)

]]> By: Simon http://www.churchtechy.com/2009/04/my-cloud-computing-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-140 Simon Thu, 30 Apr 2009 04:19:55 +0000 http://www.churchtechy.com/?p=333#comment-140 Heh, that's why I go to church sites to learn about the fears and problems people are having, even techs. I won't convince you now; but, it might help me convince people in my own church. Thanks for the replies! Heh, that's why I go to church sites to learn about the fears and problems people are having, even techs. I won't convince you now; but, it might help me convince people in my own church. Thanks for the replies!

]]> By: Stuart http://www.churchtechy.com/2009/04/my-cloud-computing-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-139 Stuart Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:59:38 +0000 http://www.churchtechy.com/?p=333#comment-139 - but then I'm not after business class service for my web host - my CC is protected by other means and damaged goods are their problem. You aren't going to convince me. They are my paranoias and I'm keeping them :) - but then I'm not after business class service for my web host
- my CC is protected by other means and damaged goods are their problem.

You aren't going to convince me. They are my paranoias and I'm keeping them :)

]]> By: Simon http://www.churchtechy.com/2009/04/my-cloud-computing-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-138 Simon Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:49:11 +0000 http://www.churchtechy.com/?p=333#comment-138 Are the T&C issues coming from Bruce Schneier? He's crazy. Your own web host for churchtechy.com T&C only gives you an uptime promise of 99.5%. And if anything goes wrong its not their fault. Use Amazon at all? Same thing, as soon as they pass your book/item over to the shipping company, not their problem. If they happen to release your credit card numbers, according to their Conditions of Use, not their problem. I don't see how "shared infrastructure" is any less secure than a dedicated hardware, just more places to fail, especially for someone with low resources like a church. Are the T&C issues coming from Bruce Schneier? He's crazy.

Your own web host for churchtechy.com T&C only gives you an uptime promise of 99.5%. And if anything goes wrong its not their fault.

Use Amazon at all? Same thing, as soon as they pass your book/item over to the shipping company, not their problem. If they happen to release your credit card numbers, according to their Conditions of Use, not their problem.

I don't see how "shared infrastructure" is any less secure than a dedicated hardware, just more places to fail, especially for someone with low resources like a church.

]]> By: Stuart http://www.churchtechy.com/2009/04/my-cloud-computing-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-137 Stuart Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:49:55 +0000 http://www.churchtechy.com/?p=333#comment-137 The trouble for me is that it is still a "shared infrastructure". At work clients are on their own dedicated hardware, etc unless they have very specifically bought into a shared setup. It's that shared aspect which still niggles (it's just me I know) along with Google's T&C's which don't always reassure. The trouble for me is that it is still a "shared infrastructure". At work clients are on their own dedicated hardware, etc unless they have very specifically bought into a shared setup. It's that shared aspect which still niggles (it's just me I know) along with Google's T&C's which don't always reassure.

]]> By: Simon http://www.churchtechy.com/2009/04/my-cloud-computing-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-136 Simon Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:01:57 +0000 http://www.churchtechy.com/?p=333#comment-136 Security - <a href="http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/business/infrastructure_security.html" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/business/infra...</a> I don't know about you, maybe at work you have that but nothing in my church has that level of security. Longevity - Yeah you take a hit on this one; but, no upgrading makes this one even for me. Infrastructure - At least for Google products including their calendar, you can have offline copies in case Google or your internet goes down. The best things I like, is having someone else to call with a problem and good web access. More and more of the staff at my church are using their email, calendar, files away from church and Google and the other online providers do a better job than I do for that. Security – http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/business/infra... I don't know about you, maybe at work you have that but nothing in my church has that level of security.

Longevity – Yeah you take a hit on this one; but, no upgrading makes this one even for me.

Infrastructure – At least for Google products including their calendar, you can have offline copies in case Google or your internet goes down.

The best things I like, is having someone else to call with a problem and good web access. More and more of the staff at my church are using their email, calendar, files away from church and Google and the other online providers do a better job than I do for that.

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